Makeup
I think with makeup it depends on how much you use make up in a subtle amount in my opinion is fine(anonymus, 21)Agreed. But at the same time some people can pull off different shades etc in a much less “showy” way- a person should know herself.(age 21)
what about makeup for special occasions? or for dating purposes? If you do not wear makeup to a wedding, will the bride/groom feel that you do not care enough about them, because you did not put in the time and effort to get “fully” dressed and put on makeup?
I didn’t realize brides or grooms were focused on others peoples makeup on the day they are to get married. I hope they would have more important things on their minds.
Its not the makeup they notice per say but the overall appearance of their guests.
Is makeup considered lying, because we are covering up parts of ourselves? isnt tznuis covering up ourselves?
Based on what was written here earlier. A part of Tzniut is to revert the focus of others to your inner you/your soul, which is reflected upon your face. When we apply make up we are covering our face in a certain way hence covering our spirituality. what is the borderline? I don’t think that make up really covers up your inner beauty reflected on your face but perhaps it depends on how the makeup is applied on your face. (F 22)
Well what if we want people to see certain parts of ourselves and not other parts? Do you think wearing makeup can distract people from our inner beauty? Enhance our inner beauty? Or have no impact what so ever?
I think it has the capacity to both distract and enhance. Usually when the person has a beautiful inside it enhances. (age 22)
So if the person is beautiful (because or not because of their makeup) then they have a beautiful inner being?
I don't know if I am responding to anyone or just stating what I feel or all of he above but here it is... I feel that besides for make up being a weird feeling on my face it doesn't show who you really are. Of course there are the girls that show off their personality through the colors of their eye shadow but there is more to a person than just their eye shadow color. A really depressed girl can put on a bright color to hide the depression under the surface. An energetic girl will think black looks good on her but have a colorful personality. So I feel make up is not as important as it is made out to (Age 15)
Does this apply to clothing as well? If a person is wearing black, because it looks good on them, we should not assume s/he is depressed? Can your outfit "show off your personality" too? Could you hide behind clothes too? If some one wears make-up to be attractive, when in reality they are ugly, are they "not showing who they really are", are they being deceiving and not being honest with themselves?
Here's an excerpt from a dvar Torah by Rabbi David Lapin:
...“You can’t go out on a date looking like that,” the mother chastised her 19-year old daughter. “Why not?” she replied. “I don’t believe in make-up, high-heeled shoes, flashy jewelry and all that stuff. It’s inauthentic. I believe in being natural. He can take me or leave me.” Disguise or presentation?...
...There is a form of deception that we all use all of the time, and it is a talent, and a manifestation of wisdom. Consider Eisav’s talent of seduction. He deceived people with his charisma and his power of speech and even managed to deceive his own father. And yet, our Midrash refers to him as a chacham, a wise man...
...Disguise hides essence; presentation amplifies it. When an actor puts on make-up she is disguising herself. When a woman puts on make-up, she highlights her inherent beauty...
...The art is to be able to present oneself, ones ideas and ones merchandise in the most seductive way possible and always be seductive to those one wishes to engage with, but at the same time never ever to compromise ones authenticity in the process. This is having the kol, the inner voice of Yaacov, but the hands of Eisav. This form of seduction is wisdom. It is a wisdom that Eisav possessed and corrupted, and one which Yaacov acquired and purified...
...Bringing out the very best of ourselves, our wears, our ideas, our nation or our Torah and making them appear attractive are the way we influence and impact. It is how we make a difference in the world. Diplomacy, gift-giving and chessed are tools of seduction, the seduction that the Midrash calls chochma, wisdom; an art. (Age 26)
Full article here (http://rabbilapin.com/index.php?route=module/kbm/article&kbm_path=140&kbm_article_id=170)